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That's to thank you, Ron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You did us all proud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well, that's the most logical explanation for why the data was lost. Been there and done that, more times than I'd like to recall.
Even if you have measures in place to help prevent it, sometimes all is still lost. At GardenGuides we spent a couple hundred per month for daily backups. The database crashed, can't recall why... No problem, call up and have 'em restore it. After a week of fighting with them they finally admitted "uh... your database was too big for the tape drives, we couldn't back it up..." Gee guys, you had no problem taking our money each month, which lead us to believe you were backing it up... I don't think it was out and out fraud, more like incompentence.
So that's my best guess on what happened in this case. Server problems can lead to read/write errors, which can corrupt your database, which can pretty much ruin things. Just a guess, but it's a definite possiblity.
On the rest of things, I'm real sorry to hear that. I suppose that it's best I not comment further, since obviously I'd be seen as a competitor and so I'll refrain from saying anything as a "professional courtesy"
Hopefully things will work better for everyone here.
We've got a seed exchange forum, do we need a plant exchange forum as well? If there's interest, I can check with the programming department and see if they can add one. Then I'll run it by the development group, legal and marketing to see what they think. If they approve we can submit it to the executive director and see what he thinks...
Oh, wait, they're all me... That makes it easy! So, do we need a plant trading area?
I could do that, or I can add a seperate topic if there's interest. A topic just for plant trades would remove any confusion as to whether the item being offered was just seeds or a plant.
plantlover
New Member
Ron, thanks for posting the obituary. I couldn't and wouldn't have done it, but it needed to be done! KUDO's to you! And I'll be waiting anxiously to see all of your pictures. Don't think for a minute that your photos and efforts weren't appreciated.
Good thing I have some bath sheets, because I do so much drooling when I look at your pictures that I need something big enough to protect me....a bath sheet will go from my neck to my toes.
YOU ROCK, Ron!
Good thing I have some bath sheets, because I do so much drooling when I look at your pictures that I need something big enough to protect me....a bath sheet will go from my neck to my toes.
YOU ROCK, Ron!
plantlover
New Member
That's to thank you, Ron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You did us all proud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
treeman
Member
Guess I missed the obit....... oh well. Susan, I'm not really very happy about being "right". The only thing I feel I was right about was that I could not do my assigned job. I couldn't really edit articles anymore, and then so many went missing or came back out of form. More importantly I couldn't recruit articles like I had intended to from the beginning. I simply couldn't ask somemone in good faith to submit something, knowing it may well disappear. The final straw was that there was that communication from the webmaster pretty much became non-existent. So I resigned my volunteer role. I intended to continue as an active forum participant when I saw an opportunity to help someone. I guess I do that here along with one or two other forums I have found I like the looks of.
Well, that's the most logical explanation for why the data was lost. Been there and done that, more times than I'd like to recall.
Even if you have measures in place to help prevent it, sometimes all is still lost. At GardenGuides we spent a couple hundred per month for daily backups. The database crashed, can't recall why... No problem, call up and have 'em restore it. After a week of fighting with them they finally admitted "uh... your database was too big for the tape drives, we couldn't back it up..." Gee guys, you had no problem taking our money each month, which lead us to believe you were backing it up... I don't think it was out and out fraud, more like incompentence.
So that's my best guess on what happened in this case. Server problems can lead to read/write errors, which can corrupt your database, which can pretty much ruin things. Just a guess, but it's a definite possiblity.
On the rest of things, I'm real sorry to hear that. I suppose that it's best I not comment further, since obviously I'd be seen as a competitor and so I'll refrain from saying anything as a "professional courtesy"
Hopefully things will work better for everyone here.
plantlover
New Member
Rest assured, Bob! They already are working out better here!
You may be right about the data being corrupted. There was a point where the hosting company kept telling him that we were overloading their servers and making it crash. It got to the point where they'd take the site off line briefly to prevent the crashes. Now there are constant error messages, so it's impossible to see anything.
Wes, the communication with the webmaster never existed. I'd contact him and I'd never know whether or not I'd get a reply in a day or six months down the pike. When you told me you were stepping down, I knew you were right. I didn't leave because I had made a commitment to stay on for a year, and after that, we'd revisit things. When Al fired all of us yesterday, it was 6 days shy of a year.
My gut feeling is that that action may have driven the last nail into the coffin.
It's really cool here. It's refreshing to be able to use an easy interface!
You may be right about the data being corrupted. There was a point where the hosting company kept telling him that we were overloading their servers and making it crash. It got to the point where they'd take the site off line briefly to prevent the crashes. Now there are constant error messages, so it's impossible to see anything.
Wes, the communication with the webmaster never existed. I'd contact him and I'd never know whether or not I'd get a reply in a day or six months down the pike. When you told me you were stepping down, I knew you were right. I didn't leave because I had made a commitment to stay on for a year, and after that, we'd revisit things. When Al fired all of us yesterday, it was 6 days shy of a year.
My gut feeling is that that action may have driven the last nail into the coffin.
It's really cool here. It's refreshing to be able to use an easy interface!
OK, folks, if I can, I'd like to gently steer the discussions away from all the problems of the other site, and back to welcoming folks from GH here, and letting them reconnect.
I'm sorry to hear things went badly there, and I can certainly understand why folks are frustrated and want to vent. It's also helpful to have some understanding of what happened and why.
However, let's try and focus on the positive aspects, and not get too focused on what went wrong at the old place.
Thanks!
I'm sorry to hear things went badly there, and I can certainly understand why folks are frustrated and want to vent. It's also helpful to have some understanding of what happened and why.
However, let's try and focus on the positive aspects, and not get too focused on what went wrong at the old place.
Thanks!
plantlover
New Member
Let's talk about planting stuff! It's getting to be that time of the year again! Woo Hoo!
Is there a designated trading area around here?
Is there a designated trading area around here?
So did you all see the sun yesterday? It was so bright here and the temps were great....the grdson and I went for a wonderful walk and came across a yard with at least 100 different rose bushes...the lady was out doing a bit of cleaning ...well we all began to visit and she invited me to come on back and get as many cuttings as I would like...I am in heaven...So with the two new palants a kind sir sent me home with and the few i was able to start when we moved last fall...I am on my way to a wonderful rose garden...
We've got a seed exchange forum, do we need a plant exchange forum as well? If there's interest, I can check with the programming department and see if they can add one. Then I'll run it by the development group, legal and marketing to see what they think. If they approve we can submit it to the executive director and see what he thinks...
Oh, wait, they're all me... That makes it easy! So, do we need a plant trading area?
Bob, Maybe just add the word plant...so you have Seeds and Plant trades
I could do that, or I can add a seperate topic if there's interest. A topic just for plant trades would remove any confusion as to whether the item being offered was just seeds or a plant.
treeman
Member
Me, myself and I!!!
plantlover
New Member
Or what if you created an area where members could list what they have.....and leave it to the member to separate seeds, plants, cuttings, bulbs or whatever. Then they could indicate what they are looking for, whether they'll accept postage or anything else that might be pertinent.
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